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Jun 21 · Liked post
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Right so I finally did it. Walked into the leisure centre on Tuesday looking like someone's nan who'd taken a wrong turn, found the weights area, and just... stood there for a good three minutes pretending to read the notices. 😂 I'm 58, been on HRT for about four years now, and my GP mentioned at my last review that we should probably start thinking about whether I stay on it long term. Which honestly sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole about bones and muscle and all the rest of it. I'm not ready to feel old. I'm really not. So I've started going twice a week. Just the basics, nothing heroic. The bloke next to me on Monday was doing things with a barbell that made me feel like I'd wandered onto a different planet, but I ignored him and did my squats and my rows and felt quietly pleased with myself on the way home. The protein thing I'm trying to get my head round too. I've always been a cereal-and-toast person and apparently that is not going to cut it if I want to keep any muscle. So I've been eating more eggs, more fish, Greek yoghurt. My husband thinks I've joined a cult. Anyone else come to this late and felt completely out of place at first? Does it get less weird? x
Jun 21 · Liked post
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So I realized last week I hadn't thought about my own symptoms in probably three months. Between my mom's appointments and the kids and work I just... stopped noticing until I snapped at my daughter over nothing and then sat in the bathroom for ten minutes trying to remember what I'd eaten that day. Spoiler: not much. This week I'm trying one thing. Just one. I'm taking five minutes after I drop my mom off to sit in the car and write a note about how I'm actually feeling. Not a to-do list. Just how I feel. I'm also making a big batch of something Sunday so I have actual food available without thinking. That's it. Not a plan, just a tiny experiment.
Jun 21 · Liked post
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Took vitamin D with breakfast instead of forgetting it existed. Three days running. Noting it here so it counts for something.
Jun 20 · Liked post
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51 and I want to write this down before I convince myself it was always fine. Eight weeks ago I was genuinely frightened. Not dramatically frightened, just that quiet dread where you lie there at 2am thinking is this just... life now? The flushes were relentless, I was crying at things I can't even remember, and I was so tired I was making mistakes at work that I kept having to quietly fix. This week I slept four nights in a row without waking drenched. Four. I keep checking my notes because I don't quite trust my memory of how bad it was anymore, which is funny in a slightly grim way. I've been keeping rough sleep and mood notes since I started HRT and I'm genuinely glad I did because looking back I can see there was about a five week point where things started to quietly shift. Not a moment. Just a gradual settling. The other thing, and I say this only as my own experience, is that I've been making sure I eat something with proper protein after my walks and the one strength session I do a week. Whether that's connected to anything I honestly don't know. Might be coincidence. But I've kept doing it because it's easy and it doesn't hurt. I have a follow-up appointment coming and I want to be honest that sleep still isn't perfect, the flushes haven't gone completely, and my mood can still drop quite suddenly on certain days. So it's not a neat ending. But it's not where I was. And I really needed someone to tell me at the start that it might not be where I was forever. So. Here I am saying it. x
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Thank you Ruth, and everyone who replied. This is exactly why I posted. Reading these has made me feel much less ridiculous, and I am adding a few notes before my next appointment.
Jun 20 · Liked post
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Cardiology referral letter arrived today and I genuinely burst into tears. Relief I think, not dread, though honestly who can tell anymore. So I've been keeping a little notebook by my bed for the past three weeks. Every time my heart does its weird fluttery thing I write down the time, what I was doing, whether I'd had coffee that day, and roughly how I slept the night before. It started because I kept going blank at the GP and saying "oh it happens, you know, quite a lot" like an absolute idiot. Now I have actual times and dates. 2.17am on a Tuesday. 11.40pm after two cups of tea after 4pm. That kind of thing. The caffeine one is interesting. I haven't cut it out completely because I am not a saint, but I moved my last coffee to before noon and the late-night episodes do seem less frequent. Could be coincidence. I'm writing it down anyway. What I actually want to know before I see the cardiologist is what tests I should be asking about. I know there's an ECG, I've had one of those at the GP already. But I've seen people mention Holter monitors, the ones you wear for a few days? Is that something I can specifically request or does it depend on what they find? Also whether thyroid gets checked as a matter of course or whether I need to push for that. Not looking for anyone to diagnose me, I promise. Just want to walk in there having asked the right questions rather than nodding along and forgetting everything the minute I leave.
Jun 20 · Liked post
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52 and I have finally booked a GP appointment for next week, which sounds like nothing but has taken me about three months to actually do. The problem is every time I get in that room my brain just... empties. I'll have spent the whole drive there running through what I want to say and then she asks "so what's brought you in today" and I say something like "oh just a bit tired I suppose" and that's it, appointment over, nothing changes. So this time I'm writing it all down beforehand. Properly. I've been keeping a note on my phone this week, just jotting when I wake (it's almost always between 3 and 4, almost to the minute, it's uncanny), how I feel when I eventually get up, whether the anxiety is bad. Nothing fancy, just a rough log so I have something to show her rather than relying on my absolutely useless memory. I want to ask about HRT specifically and whether it can help with sleep, because that's genuinely the thing that's wrecking me most right now. Not the other stuff, the sleep. I've read a bit about oestrogen and sleep cycles and I don't want to go in sounding like I've self-diagnosed off the internet but I also don't want to be fobbed off with "have you tried sleep hygiene" again. Has anyone managed to have a useful conversation with their GP about HRT and sleep specifically? What actually worked to get them to take it seriously? x
Jun 20 · Posted
Been on the patches for four months now and my sister swears by her oestrogel and we are basically having the same conversation every Sunday. She says the gel gives her more control, I say at least I can't forget the patch because it's just there on my hip. Neither of us is trying to convince the other. I think we're both just relieved something is happening at all after years of being told it was stress. What I have noticed, for my own records really, is that patch change days feel slightly off for me. Like the 24 hours before I'm due to swap it, the flushes creep back and I get a bit clammy at night again. I've started writing it down because I couldn't tell if I was imagining it. Turns out I'm not imagining it, the pattern is pretty consistent. Sleep is still the thing I most want to talk to my GP about at the next review. The flushes in the day I can mostly cope with, a cold glass of water, step outside for a minute, whatever. But waking up at 2am absolutely drenched and then lying there too hot to sleep and too tired to do anything useful, that's the part that's grinding me down. I've started keeping the window open a crack and eating something lighter in the evenings, less heavy pasta, more salady bits and cold things, and I think that helps marginally but I'm not going to pretend it fixes it. Anyway. No question really. Just interested if anyone else on patches notices that pre-change dip, or if it's just me being overly attentive to my own body at this point 😅
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55 and I went on an actual date last night. First one in about three years. I want to be honest about how I felt getting ready because I think some of you might get it. I stood in front of my wardrobe for forty minutes. Not because I had nothing to wear, I have plenty of things to wear. But nothing felt like me anymore. My body has shifted in the last eighteen months and I kept putting things on and taking them off and getting quietly furious with myself. In the end I wore a green wrap dress I bought on a whim last autumn and never wore because I thought I looked too round in it. And you know what, I do look rounder than I used to. That is just true. But I also looked, I don't know. Present? Like someone who was actually there and not hiding. He was nice. It was fine. Nothing romantic is happening but that isn't the point I'm making. The point is I got dressed without pretending I looked twenty years younger and I went anyway. And I came home and ate scrambled eggs at 10pm and felt genuinely okay about the whole evening. That is the win I'm logging. Not him. Me. x
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Right, the 3pm thing. Every single day, without fail, I hit a wall around half three and I genuinely cannot tell if I'm tired, hungry, or just... dissolving. I used to think it was just a bad week. That was two years ago. I've been reading back through some older threads on here and a few people mentioned protein at breakfast making a difference to afternoon energy. I'd been having toast, obviously, because I've had toast every morning since approximately 1987. So last week I started doing eggs or Greek yoghurt with some nuts before I leave the house. Nothing fancy. Just more... actual food. It's only been eight days so I'm not claiming anything dramatic but the 3pm crash has been slightly less catastrophic? Some days I've made it to five without wanting to put my head on my desk. That feels worth noting. The thing I'm also trying to work out is the weight side of things. I haven't changed what I eat drastically, not really, but something shifted about eighteen months ago and the weight just settled around my middle without my permission. I want to talk to my GP about it but I keep feeling like I need to bring actual evidence, you know? So I've started writing down when the crashes happen, what I ate, how the weight's been moving (or not moving). Feels less vague than just saying "I feel terrible and nothing fits". Anyone else been through this with their GP? Did they take the energy crashes seriously or did you get the "eat less, move more" speech? I'm bracing myself x
Jun 20 · Liked post
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58 and I have become the woman who plans her whole day around whether her knees are going to cooperate. I don't talk about it much. My husband asks how I'm doing and I say fine. My daughter calls and I say fine. I come here and I say it: my joints are the loudest thing in my life right now and I have just been quietly managing around them for months. The walking plan is helping, genuinely. Thirty minutes most mornings, nothing heroic, just out the door before I can talk myself out of it. Some days it loosens everything up and I feel almost normal. Other days I'm limping back in thinking okay that was too much. I've been reading about calcium and vitamin D and I've been more intentional about food lately, more dairy, more sardines, which my husband thinks is hilarious. I'm not making any claims, it's just something I'm paying attention to. I've been on HRT for six years now and I have a checkup coming up and I want to actually ask the real questions this time. Not just "is this still okay" but like, what are we thinking about long term? What does staying on it look like at 60, 65? I keep chickening out of that conversation and I don't know why. Maybe because I'm scared of the answer. Maybe because I don't want anyone to take the one thing that's been keeping me functional. Anyone else navigating that appointment anxiety? The kind where you finally have the questions ready and then you walk in and somehow say nothing.
Jun 19 · Liked post
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Right. I've been sitting here for twenty minutes trying to work out how to word this and I keep deleting it. I'm 58 and I've been with my husband for thirty-one years. Thirty-one. And I cannot for the life of me find the words to tell him that sex has become genuinely painful. Not uncomfortable. Painful. I just sort of... go quiet and hope he doesn't notice and then feel awful about it afterwards for multiple reasons. I've got a GP appointment next week and I've been scribbling down notes on my phone because I know I'll get in there and my brain will go completely blank. What I'm trying to say to the doctor is something like: dryness that's got worse over the past year, pain during sex, and something that feels almost like a UTI afterwards even when it isn't one. I looked it up and I think the term I want is GSM? I wrote it down so I don't forget to actually say it out loud rather than just hinting and hoping she picks it up. The appointment feels manageable. It's the conversation with my husband that doesn't. Has anyone actually found the words for that bit? Not the doctor bit, the other bit. x
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Been on the patches for four months now and my sister swears by her oestrogel and we are basically having the same conversation every Sunday. She says the gel gives her more control, I say at least I can't forget the patch because it's just there on my hip. Neither of us is trying to convince the other. I think we're both just relieved something is happening at all after years of being told it was stress. What I have noticed, for my own records really, is that patch change days feel slightly off for me. Like the 24 hours before I'm due to swap it, the flushes creep back and I get a bit clammy at night again. I've started writing it down because I couldn't tell if I was imagining it. Turns out I'm not imagining it, the pattern is pretty consistent. Sleep is still the thing I most want to talk to my GP about at the next review. The flushes in the day I can mostly cope with, a cold glass of water, step outside for a minute, whatever. But waking up at 2am absolutely drenched and then lying there too hot to sleep and too tired to do anything useful, that's the part that's grinding me down. I've started keeping the window open a crack and eating something lighter in the evenings, less heavy pasta, more salady bits and cold things, and I think that helps marginally but I'm not going to pretend it fixes it. Anyway. No question really. Just interested if anyone else on patches notices that pre-change dip, or if it's just me being overly attentive to my own body at this point 😅
Patch vs gel. I keep going back and forth on this in my head and I genuinely don't want anyone to tell me what to do, I just want to hear what other people's experience has actually been like day to day. I'm on patches at the moment and I'm finding the whole change-day thing weirdly stressful. Like I have a little note on my phone now for when I changed it and where I put it (inner thigh this time, upper arm last time because the thigh one left a red square for about a week). It's not a massive thing but I keep thinking about whether the gel would just be... simpler? Less faff? The flushes are still happening, especially between about 2am and 5am which is just brilliant timing. I've started keeping a rough note of how often they wake me up because my next GP appointment is coming up and I want to be able to say something more useful than "loads, it's loads, I'm exhausted". Last week it was four nights out of seven with at least two wake-ups each. Written down it looks more serious than it felt at the time, which is interesting. Food-wise I've been trying to eat lighter in the evenings, nothing fancy, just less heavy stuff before bed. Whether that's doing anything I honestly couldn't tell you. Anyway. Patch people, gel people. How does it actually feel to manage it week to week? That's all I'm after x
Quick question that isn't really a question. I'm on my third patch type in eighteen months (GP keeps switching things around at reviews and I never quite understand why) and I've started writing down the change dates with a little note about how sleep went that week. Not because I'm being scientific about it, I just got fed up of not being able to remember what was happening when, you know? Anyway I'd love to know if anyone else went from one patch to another and found the night sweats shifted, got worse for a bit, then settled, or didn't settle, whatever. Just the actual experience. I spoke to a friend who swapped to gel instead and she reckons it changed everything for her but she's also one of those people who swears by whatever she's currently doing so I don't know how much weight to give it 😂 I've started avoiding red wine completely on patch-change weeks which is a genuine sacrifice and I need someone to acknowledge that. Cold pasta salad for dinner like some sort of defeated person. Anyway. Just here for the stories x
53, been on patches for about four months now and I keep reading people raving about oestrogel and honestly I just want to hear what the actual day-to-day difference felt like for people. Not looking for anyone to tell me what to do, genuinely just curious about lived experience. With the patches I notice the days right before I change them the flushes creep back. Like clockwork, Tuesday evenings are grim. I've started writing it down because I couldn't work out if I was imagining it or not. Turns out I wasn't imagining it. Sleep is still all over the place which is the bit that's getting me down most. I'll have a decent run of four or five nights and then three absolutely horrendous ones where I'm soaked at 2am, then again at 4, then I just give up and go make tea. I'm going to bring my sleep notes to my next review because I think it tells more of a story than me just sitting there saying "yeah still not great". Also randomly started having cold things for tea on bad weeks, salads, gazpacho out of a carton, anything that doesn't involve standing over a hot hob. Tiny discovery but it does help with the evening flushes at least. Anyway. Patch people, gel people, just... how did it feel for you? x
Can I just ask about patches vs gel without it turning into a whole thing? Not looking for anyone to tell me what to do, genuinely just curious about other people's experiences. I've been on a patch for about four months. Change days are Tuesday and Saturday and I've started scribbling in a notebook on those days, partly because I was convinced I felt rougher on day six and seven and wanted to check if I was imagining it. Turns out I wasn't imagining it. The last two or three days before a new patch go to pieces for me, sleep especially. I'm waking up soaked at about 2am and then I'm just done for the night, lying there cooking. A woman in a different thread mentioned she'd switched to gel because she liked being able to adjust more easily, and that's kind of lodged in my brain. I'm not saying I want to switch, I don't even know if I should, I just find it interesting how differently people seem to experience the two. Also I've started eating lighter in the evenings, less stodge basically, and I genuinely think it helps with the night flushes. Could be coincidence. Probably is. But I'm noting it anyway. Anyone else keeping patch change notes? What do yours show? x
So I switched from patches to oestrogel about eight weeks ago and honestly I keep going back and forth in my head about which was better. Not asking anyone to tell me what to do, just... curious whether other people have thoughts about their own switch? The patches were fine except I kept forgetting the change day and then wondering whether that explained a rough few days, so I started writing the change day on my phone calendar with a little note about how I slept that night. Three weeks of that and there was definitely something in it for me. The gel feels more fiddly somehow but I like being able to adjust the timing. Sleep is still all over the place if I'm honest. I've got a review coming up and I want to actually describe the sleep thing properly this time, not just say "not great" and have her nod and move on. Last time I said I was tired and she suggested a blood test. I need better words. How many flushes, how broken the sleep actually is, does it take an hour to get back off or three. That kind of thing. Anyway. Just musing really. If you've had a patch-to-gel journey and want to share how it went for you I'm all ears 😊
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I have been here since February without writing anything. Started HRT about six weeks ago after a conversation with my GP that took longer to arrange than I would have liked. The night sweats are less frequent now, not gone. I am keeping a rough log because I want to be specific when I go back for the follow-up rather than just saying it is better or worse. My daughter thinks I am overthinking it. She is probably right but I am doing it anyway.
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Jun 21 · Liked post
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Right so I finally did it. Walked into the leisure centre on Tuesday looking like someone's nan who'd taken a wrong turn, found the weights area, and just... stood there for a good three minutes pretending to read the notices. 😂 I'm 58, been on HRT for about four years now, and my GP mentioned at my last review that we should probably start thinking about whether I stay on it long term. Which honestly sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole about bones and muscle and all the rest of it. I'm not ready to feel old. I'm really not. So I've started going twice a week. Just the basics, nothing heroic. The bloke next to me on Monday was doing things with a barbell that made me feel like I'd wandered onto a different planet, but I ignored him and did my squats and my rows and felt quietly pleased with myself on the way home. The protein thing I'm trying to get my head round too. I've always been a cereal-and-toast person and apparently that is not going to cut it if I want to keep any muscle. So I've been eating more eggs, more fish, Greek yoghurt. My husband thinks I've joined a cult. Anyone else come to this late and felt completely out of place at first? Does it get less weird? x
Jun 21 · Liked post
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So I realized last week I hadn't thought about my own symptoms in probably three months. Between my mom's appointments and the kids and work I just... stopped noticing until I snapped at my daughter over nothing and then sat in the bathroom for ten minutes trying to remember what I'd eaten that day. Spoiler: not much. This week I'm trying one thing. Just one. I'm taking five minutes after I drop my mom off to sit in the car and write a note about how I'm actually feeling. Not a to-do list. Just how I feel. I'm also making a big batch of something Sunday so I have actual food available without thinking. That's it. Not a plan, just a tiny experiment.
Jun 21 · Liked post
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Took vitamin D with breakfast instead of forgetting it existed. Three days running. Noting it here so it counts for something.
Jun 20 · Liked post
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51 and I want to write this down before I convince myself it was always fine. Eight weeks ago I was genuinely frightened. Not dramatically frightened, just that quiet dread where you lie there at 2am thinking is this just... life now? The flushes were relentless, I was crying at things I can't even remember, and I was so tired I was making mistakes at work that I kept having to quietly fix. This week I slept four nights in a row without waking drenched. Four. I keep checking my notes because I don't quite trust my memory of how bad it was anymore, which is funny in a slightly grim way. I've been keeping rough sleep and mood notes since I started HRT and I'm genuinely glad I did because looking back I can see there was about a five week point where things started to quietly shift. Not a moment. Just a gradual settling. The other thing, and I say this only as my own experience, is that I've been making sure I eat something with proper protein after my walks and the one strength session I do a week. Whether that's connected to anything I honestly don't know. Might be coincidence. But I've kept doing it because it's easy and it doesn't hurt. I have a follow-up appointment coming and I want to be honest that sleep still isn't perfect, the flushes haven't gone completely, and my mood can still drop quite suddenly on certain days. So it's not a neat ending. But it's not where I was. And I really needed someone to tell me at the start that it might not be where I was forever. So. Here I am saying it. x
Jun 20 · Liked post
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Cardiology referral letter arrived today and I genuinely burst into tears. Relief I think, not dread, though honestly who can tell anymore. So I've been keeping a little notebook by my bed for the past three weeks. Every time my heart does its weird fluttery thing I write down the time, what I was doing, whether I'd had coffee that day, and roughly how I slept the night before. It started because I kept going blank at the GP and saying "oh it happens, you know, quite a lot" like an absolute idiot. Now I have actual times and dates. 2.17am on a Tuesday. 11.40pm after two cups of tea after 4pm. That kind of thing. The caffeine one is interesting. I haven't cut it out completely because I am not a saint, but I moved my last coffee to before noon and the late-night episodes do seem less frequent. Could be coincidence. I'm writing it down anyway. What I actually want to know before I see the cardiologist is what tests I should be asking about. I know there's an ECG, I've had one of those at the GP already. But I've seen people mention Holter monitors, the ones you wear for a few days? Is that something I can specifically request or does it depend on what they find? Also whether thyroid gets checked as a matter of course or whether I need to push for that. Not looking for anyone to diagnose me, I promise. Just want to walk in there having asked the right questions rather than nodding along and forgetting everything the minute I leave.
Jun 20 · Liked post
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52 and I have finally booked a GP appointment for next week, which sounds like nothing but has taken me about three months to actually do. The problem is every time I get in that room my brain just... empties. I'll have spent the whole drive there running through what I want to say and then she asks "so what's brought you in today" and I say something like "oh just a bit tired I suppose" and that's it, appointment over, nothing changes. So this time I'm writing it all down beforehand. Properly. I've been keeping a note on my phone this week, just jotting when I wake (it's almost always between 3 and 4, almost to the minute, it's uncanny), how I feel when I eventually get up, whether the anxiety is bad. Nothing fancy, just a rough log so I have something to show her rather than relying on my absolutely useless memory. I want to ask about HRT specifically and whether it can help with sleep, because that's genuinely the thing that's wrecking me most right now. Not the other stuff, the sleep. I've read a bit about oestrogen and sleep cycles and I don't want to go in sounding like I've self-diagnosed off the internet but I also don't want to be fobbed off with "have you tried sleep hygiene" again. Has anyone managed to have a useful conversation with their GP about HRT and sleep specifically? What actually worked to get them to take it seriously? x
Jun 20 · Liked post
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55 and I went on an actual date last night. First one in about three years. I want to be honest about how I felt getting ready because I think some of you might get it. I stood in front of my wardrobe for forty minutes. Not because I had nothing to wear, I have plenty of things to wear. But nothing felt like me anymore. My body has shifted in the last eighteen months and I kept putting things on and taking them off and getting quietly furious with myself. In the end I wore a green wrap dress I bought on a whim last autumn and never wore because I thought I looked too round in it. And you know what, I do look rounder than I used to. That is just true. But I also looked, I don't know. Present? Like someone who was actually there and not hiding. He was nice. It was fine. Nothing romantic is happening but that isn't the point I'm making. The point is I got dressed without pretending I looked twenty years younger and I went anyway. And I came home and ate scrambled eggs at 10pm and felt genuinely okay about the whole evening. That is the win I'm logging. Not him. Me. x
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Right, the 3pm thing. Every single day, without fail, I hit a wall around half three and I genuinely cannot tell if I'm tired, hungry, or just... dissolving. I used to think it was just a bad week. That was two years ago. I've been reading back through some older threads on here and a few people mentioned protein at breakfast making a difference to afternoon energy. I'd been having toast, obviously, because I've had toast every morning since approximately 1987. So last week I started doing eggs or Greek yoghurt with some nuts before I leave the house. Nothing fancy. Just more... actual food. It's only been eight days so I'm not claiming anything dramatic but the 3pm crash has been slightly less catastrophic? Some days I've made it to five without wanting to put my head on my desk. That feels worth noting. The thing I'm also trying to work out is the weight side of things. I haven't changed what I eat drastically, not really, but something shifted about eighteen months ago and the weight just settled around my middle without my permission. I want to talk to my GP about it but I keep feeling like I need to bring actual evidence, you know? So I've started writing down when the crashes happen, what I ate, how the weight's been moving (or not moving). Feels less vague than just saying "I feel terrible and nothing fits". Anyone else been through this with their GP? Did they take the energy crashes seriously or did you get the "eat less, move more" speech? I'm bracing myself x
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58 and I have become the woman who plans her whole day around whether her knees are going to cooperate. I don't talk about it much. My husband asks how I'm doing and I say fine. My daughter calls and I say fine. I come here and I say it: my joints are the loudest thing in my life right now and I have just been quietly managing around them for months. The walking plan is helping, genuinely. Thirty minutes most mornings, nothing heroic, just out the door before I can talk myself out of it. Some days it loosens everything up and I feel almost normal. Other days I'm limping back in thinking okay that was too much. I've been reading about calcium and vitamin D and I've been more intentional about food lately, more dairy, more sardines, which my husband thinks is hilarious. I'm not making any claims, it's just something I'm paying attention to. I've been on HRT for six years now and I have a checkup coming up and I want to actually ask the real questions this time. Not just "is this still okay" but like, what are we thinking about long term? What does staying on it look like at 60, 65? I keep chickening out of that conversation and I don't know why. Maybe because I'm scared of the answer. Maybe because I don't want anyone to take the one thing that's been keeping me functional. Anyone else navigating that appointment anxiety? The kind where you finally have the questions ready and then you walk in and somehow say nothing.
Jun 19 · Liked post
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Right. I've been sitting here for twenty minutes trying to work out how to word this and I keep deleting it. I'm 58 and I've been with my husband for thirty-one years. Thirty-one. And I cannot for the life of me find the words to tell him that sex has become genuinely painful. Not uncomfortable. Painful. I just sort of... go quiet and hope he doesn't notice and then feel awful about it afterwards for multiple reasons. I've got a GP appointment next week and I've been scribbling down notes on my phone because I know I'll get in there and my brain will go completely blank. What I'm trying to say to the doctor is something like: dryness that's got worse over the past year, pain during sex, and something that feels almost like a UTI afterwards even when it isn't one. I looked it up and I think the term I want is GSM? I wrote it down so I don't forget to actually say it out loud rather than just hinting and hoping she picks it up. The appointment feels manageable. It's the conversation with my husband that doesn't. Has anyone actually found the words for that bit? Not the doctor bit, the other bit. x
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Hello wise ladies. The 3pm crash. Every single day. I sit down after lunch and it's like someone pulls a plug. Eyes heavy, can't concentrate, reach for biscuits I don't even want. I've been trying to work out if it's what I'm eating at lunch or just... being 61 and postmeno and that's that. My lunches are honestly a bit rubbish. Usually whatever's quick, often just toast or a sandwich, sometimes nothing proper at all if work gets busy. Someone on here mentioned meal planning a little while back and I've been thinking about it. Not a whole week, that feels like a lot, but even just sorting three evening meals in advance so I'm not improvising every night and then having nothing useful for the next day's lunch either. That knock-on effect is real isn't it. I keep wondering whether I should mention the afternoon thing to my GP. It feels too vague to bring up. "I get tired at three" sounds feeble. But it's every day and it's affecting my work and I'm not sure it's just tiredness, it feels more like a blood sugar thing? I don't actually know. I'd like to know. If anyone has changed something and noticed the afternoon bit improve, I'd genuinely love to hear what it was. Doesn't have to be expensive or complicated, we're pretty much a meat and two veg household and budget matters. Just curious what shifted for people x
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47 and I keep going back and forth in my head between the patch and the gel. Not asking anyone to tell me which to pick, honestly I just want to hear what people's actual day-to-day is like with either. Like does the patch stay put in summer? Does the gel feel weird under clothes? My GP mentioned both in the same breath and then moved on before I could ask anything useful. Side thing: I've been writing down how many flushes I'm having each day because I kept underestimating when I tried to recall them at the appointment. Turns out it's more like 8 or 9 on a bad day, not the vague "quite a few" I kept saying. Sleep's a whole other chapter. Also quietly noting my caffeine and wine intake because both seem to make evenings worse. The coffee one is genuinely gutting. Anyway. Just curious about people's patch vs gel experiences, no pressure to give me a verdict on anything x
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58 and I am sitting here with a piece of paper trying to work out how to describe what has been happening down there to a GP I have seen maybe twice. How do you even start that sentence. "It hurts" feels too vague. "Sex is painful" feels too exposing. "Dryness" sounds like I'm talking about a biscuit. I've been writing things down because I know if I don't I'll walk in and say I'm fine and come out with nothing. So far my list says: discomfort, that UTI feeling that never quite turns into a UTI, and the fact that I stopped wanting to try because the anticipation of pain is worse than the pain itself. My husband hasn't said anything. Neither have I. We've both just quietly stopped and I think we're both pretending that's fine and it isn't. Does anyone have actual words they used with their GP? Not looking for a script, just. I don't know. Proof that someone said it out loud and didn't dissolve.
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53 and I am now That Person in meetings. The one with the notebook open before anyone else has sat down, writing everything as it happens because if I don't, it's just... gone. Completely gone. I used to be able to hold a whole project conversation in my head and recap it perfectly afterwards. Now I lose the thread mid-sentence and have to style it out like I was pausing for dramatic effect. Had a team catch-up on Tuesday and I had written "chase Sarah re: contracts" on a Post-it literally thirty seconds before I walked in. Did I look at the Post-it during the meeting? I did not. Found it in my pocket at 5pm. The afternoons are the worst. About 3 o'clock I hit this wall where my brain just refuses to cooperate. I've started keeping something with protein in my desk drawer for that exact window because I noticed I was worse on the days I'd just had a coffee and ignored lunch properly. Whether that's actually doing anything or I'm imagining it, genuinely can't tell, but I'm paying attention to it now. Sleep is the other thing. I've got quite strict with myself about what time I stop looking at my phone because I was getting these rubbish broken nights and turning up to work already behind before I'd even started. Two weeks of earlier wind-down and I think, THINK, the mornings are slightly less horrific. Maybe. What I actually want to ask my GP, when I eventually get the appointment, is whether this specific kind of fog, the word-finding thing, the mid-sentence blankness, is something they recognise as hormonal or whether I'm supposed to be ruling other things out first. I've written down three or four concrete examples from work to take with me because I know myself, I'll walk in there and say "I feel a bit fuzzy sometimes" and that will be the end of it. x
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52 and I've started writing things down before I even get to the waiting room because the last time I sat in front of my GP my mind just went completely blank. Like, I had been awake at 3am for six nights in a row and somehow when she asked how she could help I said "I've been a bit tired" and left with a leaflet on sleep hygiene. Not this time. I've got a notes app open on my phone that I've been adding to all week. Times I woke up, how long it took to get back to sleep, whether the sweating came before or after the waking (honestly still can't tell), how I felt by mid-afternoon. It looks a bit obsessive written out like that but I genuinely cannot hold this stuff in my head anymore. The thing I really want to ask about is HRT and whether it could help with the sleep specifically. I've read a bit and I know oestrogen is involved somehow but I don't know how to bring it up without sounding like I've diagnosed myself off the internet. Has anyone managed to steer a GP conversation towards that without being fobbed off? I keep rehearsing it in my head and then worrying I'll just go quiet again the second she looks at her screen. Appointment is Thursday. Fingers crossed x
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Right, rant incoming, sorry in advance. Saw my GP last month about the flushes. Told her I was waking up soaked through twice, sometimes three times a night, that I'd had to start keeping a change of clothes next to the bed like some kind of sweaty Girl Guide. She said "it could be stress" and referred me for a blood test that apparently tells her nothing useful at this stage anyway. Sent me off with a leaflet. I've got another appointment booked and I am NOT leaving without a proper conversation this time. I've been writing stuff down, flush times, how bad the sleep disruption is, how it's affecting my concentration at work, because I figure if I turn up with actual evidence she can't just wave me out the door again. What I genuinely don't know is how to ask about HRT without sounding like I've already diagnosed myself off the internet (I have, but still). Like, is there a way to ask about patches versus gel without her getting defensive? I don't mind which form I end up on, I just want to know what the options even are. Does anyone else find GPs weirdly cagey about explaining the difference? Also on a completely unrelated note I've started eating a lot of cold cucumber and yoghurt things for lunch because hot food at my desk is now genuinely unbearable 😂 if nothing else perimenopause is improving my salad intake. Any tips for the appointment gratefully received x
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58 and I genuinely didn't see it coming. That's the thing nobody warned me about. Not the dryness itself, not what it would do to me and my husband of 29 years. One day intimacy was just... ours. Comfortable. And then it wasn't, and I didn't know why, and I was too embarrassed to say anything to him or to anyone. I've started keeping a few notes on my phone. Nothing fancy. Just writing down what I'm actually experiencing so I don't go blank when I'm sitting in front of my GP and she asks how things are. Because every time I've tried to say it out loud the words fall apart. "Discomfort" sounds too mild. "Pain" sounds dramatic. I'm trying to find the right language before I even get there. I've also been paying attention to what I eat because I read somewhere that energy and confidence are connected in ways I hadn't thought about and honestly anything that makes me feel a bit more like myself is worth noting. Whether that's actually doing anything I have no idea but it gives me something to focus on that isn't just dread. Anyway. I suppose I'm posting this because I needed somewhere to put it. 29 years together and I felt completely alone with this for the best part of a year. That seems wrong. x
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55 and divorced and... trying to fancy myself again. That's where I've landed. Not in a delusional way. In a "I bought a dress that isn't navy and I wore it to Sainsbury's" way. Which sounds mad written down but it genuinely felt like something. The thing is I spent so long being invisible that I think I forgot I had a body at all, except when it was doing something annoying. Hot flushes. The dryness nobody warns you about. That sort of low-level anxiety that makes you cancel things. I cancelled a lot of things. I've got a GP appointment next month and I've been trying to work out how to explain that it's not just physical, it's the whole... confidence thing. The way I feel about myself now versus how I used to feel. I want her to understand that it's affecting how I live, not just how I sleep. Does that make sense? I'm going to write it down before I go in because I know I'll minimise it the second she looks at me. Anyway. The dress was green. I got a compliment from a woman on the checkout. I'm counting it. x
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There wasn't a conversation. There wasn't a moment where someone sat me down and said, by the way, this part of your life is about to quietly disappear. It just... did. Me and my husband have been together 28 years and I genuinely cannot pinpoint when things shifted but at some point I started dreading something I used to want. The dryness is part of it but it's also something harder to name. A kind of disconnection. Like my body stopped being mine in that way. I've got a GP appointment next week and I've been writing things down beforehand because I know I'll go blank the second I sit in that chair. Things like: pain, discomfort, not wanting to be touched, UTI feelings that aren't UTIs. It took me three attempts to write the list because I kept deleting it like someone was going to read my phone. I don't know what I'm hoping for. Maybe just that she doesn't look at me like it's all in my head. I'm 58, not ancient, and I'd quite like to feel like myself again. Has anyone actually talked to their GP about this stuff and been heard? x
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Sixty-one and I've had the patch, I've had the gel, and honestly I'm not sure I could tell you which one 'worked' because life kept getting in the way of actually noticing properly. The patch would catch on my waistband, I'd forget which day I changed it, the gel felt fine but I couldn't tell if that was the gel or just a quieter week. What I do know is that the nights were the thing that finally broke me. Not the flushes in the day, you sort of manage those, open a window, sit near the door, eat something cold. It's waking at 2am absolutely soaking, then lying there rigid, then being completely useless the next day. I've started writing it down now, just in a cheap notebook by the bed. Time I woke, how bad, whether I got back to sleep. Three weeks of it now. I don't know what I'll do with the data but it feels less chaotic than trying to describe it to someone from memory. My GP last time asked how often and I genuinely said 'a lot' like a child. Never again. Anyway. Not looking for anyone to tell me what to do. Just curious whether others found one form noticeably different from the other, sleep-wise especially. x
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Thank you Ruth, and everyone who replied. This is exactly why I posted. Reading these has made me feel much less ridiculous, and I am adding a few notes before my next appointment.
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Thank you Mara, and everyone who replied. This is exactly why I posted. Reading these has made me feel much less ridiculous, and I am adding a few notes before my next appointment.
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Just popping back to say thank you, especially Mara. I read all of these with a cup of tea and had a little cry, in a good way. This community is such a relief sometimes.
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Thank you Ruth, and everyone who replied. This is exactly why I posted. Reading these has made me feel much less ridiculous, and I am adding a few notes before my next appointment.
Thank you Mara, and everyone who replied. This is exactly why I posted. Reading these has made me feel much less ridiculous, and I am adding a few notes before my next appointment.
Just popping back to say thank you, especially Mara. I read all of these with a cup of tea and had a little cry, in a good way. This community is such a relief sometimes.