Been on the patches for four months now and my sister swears by her oestrogel and we are basically having the same conversation every Sunday. She says the gel gives her more control, I say at least I can't forget the patch because it's just there on my hip. Neither of us is trying to convince the other. I think we're both just relieved something is happening at all after years of being told it was stress. What I have noticed, for my own records really, is that patch change days feel slightly off for me. Like the 24 hours before I'm due to swap it, the flushes creep back and I get a bit clammy at night again. I've started writing it down because I couldn't tell if I was imagining it. Turns out I'm not imagining it, the pattern is pretty consistent. Sleep is still the thing I most want to talk to my GP about at the next review. The flushes in the day I can mostly cope with, a cold glass of water, step outside for a minute, whatever. But waking up at 2am absolutely drenched and then lying there too hot to sleep and too tired to do anything useful, that's the part that's grinding me down. I've started keeping the window open a crack and eating something lighter in the evenings, less heavy pasta, more salady bits and cold things, and I think that helps marginally but I'm not going to pretend it fixes it. Anyway. No question really. Just interested if anyone else on patches notices that pre-change dip, or if it's just me being overly attentive to my own body at this point 😅