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Chicago, 47, managing menopause one day at a time.

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Jun 21 · Liked post

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44 and I cannot work out if I am burning out or if this is peri and honestly does it even matter because either way I am sitting in meetings at work and the word just... goes. Like I reach for it and there's nothing there. Last Tuesday I said "the thing, the report, the... numbers document" to my line manager. She's lovely and she waited patiently but I saw her face. I saw it. I've started writing everything down before meetings now. Not like a to-do list, more like I'm briefing myself. Key words I might need. Names of projects. It sounds mad but it actually helps me get through without looking completely vacant. Whether that's a coping strategy or a red flag I genuinely don't know. I've got a GP appointment in three weeks and I want to go in with actual examples rather than just "I feel foggy" because I know how that sounds. So I've been keeping a note on my phone. Specific moments. The word thing. The time I sent an email to the wrong team. The time I sat down to write a report and just... stared at the screen for twenty minutes. Does any of this sound like peri to you lot? I eat a proper lunch now, protein, not just a sad desk sandwich, and that does seem to help the 3pm crash a bit. But the word thing is still there in the mornings too so I don't think it's just blood sugar. I just really miss feeling sharp. x

Jun 21 · Replied

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Okay so I'm US and postmeno so slightly different path, but this hit me. The "I sound vague even to myself" thing is SO real. Writing it down before appointments was the only reason I actually got anywhere with my OBGYN. You're not dramatic. You're 40 and your body is doing something. That's worth taking seriously.

Jun 21 · Replied

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The mood thing from walks is real. I kept dismissing it because it felt too small to count. It counts. My OBGYN was actually decent about the joint stuff, asked me to describe when it hurt and what made it worse. Going in with specifics seemed to help. Fingers crossed yours listens.

Jun 21 · Replied

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Just popping back to say thank you, especially Orla. I read all of these with a cup of tea and had a little cry, in a good way. This community is such a relief sometimes.

Jun 21 · Posted

Okay so the walks are doing something I didn't expect. Like not fixing anything exactly, the weight is still the weight, the joints still creak, I still wake up at 3am feeling like a cursed Victorian ghost. But my mood after even a 15 minute walk is... different? Quieter somehow. I've been postmeno for about two years and I sort of gave up on "movement" as a concept because every attempt turned into some whole thing I couldn't sustain. This week I actually did both of my beginner strength sessions. Just bodyweight stuff I found online, nothing dramatic. I had to stop and rest more than I thought I would and that was humbling honestly. The fatigue wall is real and I'm trying to figure out what's a reasonable limit vs what's me just being scared. That's actually something I want to ask my OBGYN about at my next appointment because I genuinely don't know when tired means stop vs tired means push gently. Lunch has been weirdly helpful too, I started actually eating a real one instead of crackers at my desk at 2pm, and the afternoon feels less apocalyptic. Not a transformation story. Just... the walks help my head even when nothing else shifts. That feels worth noting.

Jun 20 · Replied

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THIS. The tick and the knee note is genuinely smart, not small. I spent months thinking I had to do a whole program before I could start anything. Turns out ten minutes outside actually shifted my mood on the worst days. Gym can wait. Walks first.

Jun 20 · Replied

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Okay so the tab thing is SO real. I had a beginner strength video bookmarked for literally two months. What finally got me moving was just walking first, like even ten minutes, no pressure. The fatigue question is worth bringing to your doctor though, I asked mine about limits before pushing harder and it genuinely helped me not spiral when I had a bad week.

Jun 20 · Posted

Okay so I've been walking. Not like, training for anything. Just... walking. Three times this week I just put my shoes on and went around the block and came back. That's it. And I don't know how to explain this but my mood on those days was noticeably less terrible? Like nothing is fixed. My joints still ache, I'm still exhausted by 2pm, I still look at my reflection and feel like a stranger. But there's something about those 15 minutes where I'm not actively spiraling. I also did two of those beginner strength videos. The ones where the instructor is not screaming at you. I had to stop and rest more than I expected and honestly felt a little embarrassed even though I was alone in my living room, which is a whole thing I'm not going to unpack right now. I have a doctor's appt coming up and I want to ask about the fatigue piece specifically because I genuinely cannot tell if I'm hitting a real limit or if I'm just deconditioned or both. I don't want her to just tell me to exercise more without acknowledging that exercising when you feel like this is not the same as exercising when you feel normal. Those are different things. Anyway. The walks are helping something even if I can't name exactly what. Grabbing a real lunch after instead of just crackers. Small stuff. Posting this mostly so I don't talk myself out of continuing.

Jun 20 · Liked post

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The anxiety thing is the bit I can't explain to anyone. There's no trigger. Nothing bad has happened. Work is fine, kids are fine, nothing is on fire. And yet at about half six most evenings I get this low-level dread that just... sits there. Like waiting for news that never comes. My husband looks at me like I should be able to name the reason and I genuinely cannot. I'm 50 and I've started wondering if this is hormonal rather than me just falling apart psychologically. Someone on here mentioned it a while back, the anxiety that doesn't have a story attached to it, and that phrase has stayed with me. I've got a GP appointment coming up and I'm going to try to ask about HRT and whether it can help with sleep and this formless dread specifically. I always forget half of what I want to say the moment I sit down in that room so I've been writing things down this week. Not symptoms exactly, more like... the texture of how I feel. Hoping that's useful. Also started eating a proper breakfast with eggs or something substantial because I read it can help with the afternoon energy crash. Too early to know if it's doing anything but I've managed it four days running which for me is practically an achievement. Dinner has been whatever's fastest. Pasta, beans on toast, leftovers. I cannot be doing with cooking properly when I feel like this and I've stopped pretending I will. x

Jun 20 · Replied

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THIS. I do the same thing, walk in totally prepared and then just go blank the second she looks at me. Writing it down is smart.

Jun 20 · Liked post

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46 and I've started keeping my phone face-down at 3am because if I look at the time one more night I think I'll cry. It's been weeks of this. Wide awake, heart going a bit, brain immediately spinning about nothing and everything at once. By 5 I'm dozing again and then the alarm goes and I feel like I've been hit by something. The thing is I genuinely don't know if it's peri or just... life? Work is stressful, the kids are stressful, everything is a lot. So how do I walk into a GP appointment and say "I keep waking up at 3am" without sounding like I just need a holiday? I feel like they'll look at me and say exactly that. I've been trying to get out for a walk after dinner most evenings, even just twenty minutes round the block. Not sure if it's doing anything for the sleep yet but it stops me sitting on the sofa catastrophising which I suppose is something. Before I go to the GP I want to write things down because every time I've tried to explain this kind of thing in an appointment my mind goes completely blank and I come out having said nothing useful. Does anyone have advice on how to describe symptoms that feel vague and a bit all over the place without sounding like you're being dramatic? x

Jun 19 · Liked post

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Right. I have my GP appointment on Thursday and I've been putting off writing this list for about three weeks because every time I sit down to do it I feel like an absolute idiot. Like, how do I say this out loud to a doctor I've been seeing since I was in my forties. But I've done it. I've written it down. On actual paper, in a notebook, because if it's on my phone I'll just keep scrolling past it. Dryness. Pain during sex. A feeling that's hard to describe, sort of like a low-level irritation, almost like a UTI but not quite. And then the libido thing, which I've left to last on the list because it's the one I least want to say. My husband has been kind about it. Patient. But I can feel the distance and it's not his fault and it's not mine either, I know that, but knowing it doesn't make the conversation easier. We've not really talked about it properly. I keep meaning to. I read somewhere that there's specific language that helps doctors take the dryness seriously, like naming it as vaginal atrophy or genitourinary symptoms, rather than just going vague and hoping they fill in the gaps. So I've written that down too. I want to actually be heard this time, not just handed a leaflet about lubricants and sent on my way. I've also been trying to eat better these last few weeks, more protein, oily fish, less of the stuff that makes me crash at 3pm, partly because I feel like if I show up feeling slightly more like myself I'll be braver in the room. Whether that's logical or not I don't know. Anyway. Thursday. Wish me luck x

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Okay so the walks are doing something I didn't expect. Like not fixing anything exactly, the weight is still the weight, the joints still creak, I still wake up at 3am feeling like a cursed Victorian ghost. But my mood after even a 15 minute walk is... different? Quieter somehow. I've been postmeno for about two years and I sort of gave up on "movement" as a concept because every attempt turned into some whole thing I couldn't sustain. This week I actually did both of my beginner strength sessions. Just bodyweight stuff I found online, nothing dramatic. I had to stop and rest more than I thought I would and that was humbling honestly. The fatigue wall is real and I'm trying to figure out what's a reasonable limit vs what's me just being scared. That's actually something I want to ask my OBGYN about at my next appointment because I genuinely don't know when tired means stop vs tired means push gently. Lunch has been weirdly helpful too, I started actually eating a real one instead of crackers at my desk at 2pm, and the afternoon feels less apocalyptic. Not a transformation story. Just... the walks help my head even when nothing else shifts. That feels worth noting.

Okay so I've been walking. Not like, training for anything. Just... walking. Three times this week I just put my shoes on and went around the block and came back. That's it. And I don't know how to explain this but my mood on those days was noticeably less terrible? Like nothing is fixed. My joints still ache, I'm still exhausted by 2pm, I still look at my reflection and feel like a stranger. But there's something about those 15 minutes where I'm not actively spiraling. I also did two of those beginner strength videos. The ones where the instructor is not screaming at you. I had to stop and rest more than I expected and honestly felt a little embarrassed even though I was alone in my living room, which is a whole thing I'm not going to unpack right now. I have a doctor's appt coming up and I want to ask about the fatigue piece specifically because I genuinely cannot tell if I'm hitting a real limit or if I'm just deconditioned or both. I don't want her to just tell me to exercise more without acknowledging that exercising when you feel like this is not the same as exercising when you feel normal. Those are different things. Anyway. The walks are helping something even if I can't name exactly what. Grabbing a real lunch after instead of just crackers. Small stuff. Posting this mostly so I don't talk myself out of continuing.

47, postmeno, and I've been doing these little walks around the block when I get home from work. Not power walking, not "steps goals", just... walking. And honestly? My mood is noticeably better on the days I do it vs the days I don't. It doesn't fix the fatigue, it doesn't fix the weight stuff, but something shifts a little. I also finally tried two of those beginner strength videos this week. The ones where the instructor isn't screaming at you. My joints were not thrilled but I got through it. The thing I want to bring to my doctor though is the fatigue piece, because I genuinely don't know where the limit is. Like how much am I supposed to push through vs how much is my body actually telling me something? Some days a 15 minute walk wipes me out and I feel like that can't be normal. Trying to write down when the crashes happen so I actually have something concrete to say at my appointment instead of just "I'm tired all the time" which, same, me too, but I want a real answer this time.

Okay so this is weird to admit but the walks are doing something to my head that I did not expect. Not my body. My body still feels like a stranger I'm renting from. Joints creaky, weight sitting differently than it ever has, and I ran out of steam by 2pm yesterday doing literally nothing strenuous. But the mood thing? When I get outside and just walk, even 12 minutes around the block, something shifts. I can't explain it scientifically and I'm not trying to. It just does. I'm also trying to get two strength sessions in per week. BEGINNER level. I'm talking resistance bands in my living room with a YouTube video made for people who are starting from actual zero. No gym. I cannot do the gym right now. The gym requires a version of me I don't currently have access to. The thing I keep bumping into is the fatigue question. Like where is the line between "this is good tired" and "you pushed too hard for where you actually are right now"? I genuinely don't know. I have a follow-up coming and I want to bring this up properly because I feel like I've just been told "exercise is good" without anyone helping me figure out what that means when your energy budget is this unpredictable. Lunch today was scrambled eggs with whatever was left in the fridge. Felt like a win honestly. Anyone else navigating the fatigue piece? How do you even describe it to a doctor without sounding like you're making excuses for not doing enough?

Okay so I went for a walk yesterday. Like a real one, outside, not just parking lot laps at Target. Maybe 15 minutes. And I didn't feel fixed or energized or whatever the wellness people promise. My knees still ached when I got home and I was tired by 7pm like usual. But something was... less bad? Mood-wise. Hard to explain. I've been trying to figure out if I can actually get back to moving my body without it turning into a whole project with a plan and a tracker and a personality change. I don't want to become a fitness person. I just want to not feel like I'm 80. Also tried two of those beginner strength videos this week. The kind where the woman is annoyingly calm and says things like "honor your body." Rolled my eyes the whole time but I did them both. Arms are sore in a way that feels almost good? My main worry going into my next appointment is the fatigue piece. Like I genuinely don't know if the tiredness is a limit I should work around or something that gets better if I push through it slightly. I don't want to ask in a way that sounds like I'm looking for permission to do nothing, because I'm not. I just need someone to help me understand where the line is. Anyway. Walks help something even when they don't help everything. That's basically my whole update.

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Jun 21 · Liked post

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44 and I cannot work out if I am burning out or if this is peri and honestly does it even matter because either way I am sitting in meetings at work and the word just... goes. Like I reach for it and there's nothing there. Last Tuesday I said "the thing, the report, the... numbers document" to my line manager. She's lovely and she waited patiently but I saw her face. I saw it. I've started writing everything down before meetings now. Not like a to-do list, more like I'm briefing myself. Key words I might need. Names of projects. It sounds mad but it actually helps me get through without looking completely vacant. Whether that's a coping strategy or a red flag I genuinely don't know. I've got a GP appointment in three weeks and I want to go in with actual examples rather than just "I feel foggy" because I know how that sounds. So I've been keeping a note on my phone. Specific moments. The word thing. The time I sent an email to the wrong team. The time I sat down to write a report and just... stared at the screen for twenty minutes. Does any of this sound like peri to you lot? I eat a proper lunch now, protein, not just a sad desk sandwich, and that does seem to help the 3pm crash a bit. But the word thing is still there in the mornings too so I don't think it's just blood sugar. I just really miss feeling sharp. x

Jun 20 · Liked post

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The anxiety thing is the bit I can't explain to anyone. There's no trigger. Nothing bad has happened. Work is fine, kids are fine, nothing is on fire. And yet at about half six most evenings I get this low-level dread that just... sits there. Like waiting for news that never comes. My husband looks at me like I should be able to name the reason and I genuinely cannot. I'm 50 and I've started wondering if this is hormonal rather than me just falling apart psychologically. Someone on here mentioned it a while back, the anxiety that doesn't have a story attached to it, and that phrase has stayed with me. I've got a GP appointment coming up and I'm going to try to ask about HRT and whether it can help with sleep and this formless dread specifically. I always forget half of what I want to say the moment I sit down in that room so I've been writing things down this week. Not symptoms exactly, more like... the texture of how I feel. Hoping that's useful. Also started eating a proper breakfast with eggs or something substantial because I read it can help with the afternoon energy crash. Too early to know if it's doing anything but I've managed it four days running which for me is practically an achievement. Dinner has been whatever's fastest. Pasta, beans on toast, leftovers. I cannot be doing with cooking properly when I feel like this and I've stopped pretending I will. x

Jun 20 · Liked post

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46 and I've started keeping my phone face-down at 3am because if I look at the time one more night I think I'll cry. It's been weeks of this. Wide awake, heart going a bit, brain immediately spinning about nothing and everything at once. By 5 I'm dozing again and then the alarm goes and I feel like I've been hit by something. The thing is I genuinely don't know if it's peri or just... life? Work is stressful, the kids are stressful, everything is a lot. So how do I walk into a GP appointment and say "I keep waking up at 3am" without sounding like I just need a holiday? I feel like they'll look at me and say exactly that. I've been trying to get out for a walk after dinner most evenings, even just twenty minutes round the block. Not sure if it's doing anything for the sleep yet but it stops me sitting on the sofa catastrophising which I suppose is something. Before I go to the GP I want to write things down because every time I've tried to explain this kind of thing in an appointment my mind goes completely blank and I come out having said nothing useful. Does anyone have advice on how to describe symptoms that feel vague and a bit all over the place without sounding like you're being dramatic? x

Jun 19 · Liked post

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Right. I have my GP appointment on Thursday and I've been putting off writing this list for about three weeks because every time I sit down to do it I feel like an absolute idiot. Like, how do I say this out loud to a doctor I've been seeing since I was in my forties. But I've done it. I've written it down. On actual paper, in a notebook, because if it's on my phone I'll just keep scrolling past it. Dryness. Pain during sex. A feeling that's hard to describe, sort of like a low-level irritation, almost like a UTI but not quite. And then the libido thing, which I've left to last on the list because it's the one I least want to say. My husband has been kind about it. Patient. But I can feel the distance and it's not his fault and it's not mine either, I know that, but knowing it doesn't make the conversation easier. We've not really talked about it properly. I keep meaning to. I read somewhere that there's specific language that helps doctors take the dryness seriously, like naming it as vaginal atrophy or genitourinary symptoms, rather than just going vague and hoping they fill in the gaps. So I've written that down too. I want to actually be heard this time, not just handed a leaflet about lubricants and sent on my way. I've also been trying to eat better these last few weeks, more protein, oily fish, less of the stuff that makes me crash at 3pm, partly because I feel like if I show up feeling slightly more like myself I'll be braver in the room. Whether that's logical or not I don't know. Anyway. Thursday. Wish me luck x

Jun 19 · Liked post

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Right so I got my DEXA results back last week and I've been sitting with them ever since trying to work out how I feel. Osteopenia. Not osteoporosis, the GP was keen to point out. But also not fine. And I think I needed to hear something concrete because I've been vaguely worrying about my bones for about two years and doing absolutely nothing about it. I'm 57, been postmenopausal since 53, on HRT the whole time. I genuinely thought that meant I was sorted on the bone front. Apparently it's more complicated than that, which my GP did explain but I'm not sure I fully took in at the time. So now I've got a list of questions for my next appointment. Things like: what does this score actually mean for fracture risk over the next decade, when do I need another scan, is my current HRT doing what we hoped, and is there anything else I should be doing alongside it. Meanwhile I've started walking every day. Not dramatically far. Just actually doing it instead of meaning to. And I've been thinking about food differently since the scan, more calcium-rich stuff, sardines, fortified oat milk, cheese (genuinely delighted that cheese is on the right side of this), and trying to get outside for the vitamin D even when it's grim out. I don't know. It's not a crisis. But the scan made it real in a way that the vague worry never did. Anyone else had a DEXA that kind of woke them up a bit? x

Jun 19 · Liked post

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56 and postmenopausal and honestly I am so tired of feeling tired. Not looking for a whole new lifestyle, just... something that actually works for breakfast? Because I've been having toast or nothing for years and by half eleven I'm absolutely done for. Someone at work mentioned protein at breakfast and I sort of rolled my eyes but then I tried eggs a few days running and I did notice a difference? Still not sure if I was imagining it. I'm not suddenly eating perfectly, I'm just trying not to hit the wall before lunch. The energy crashes are the bit I actually want to talk to my GP about. I've been putting it off because last time I mentioned tiredness she looked at me like I'd said something unremarkable. But it's not normal tired, is it. It's floor tired. I want to go in with something more concrete than "I'm knackered" so I've started noting down roughly when the worst bits happen. Mostly afternoons. Mostly when I've eaten something rubbish in the morning. Anyway. Does anyone have breakfast ideas that aren't a massive faff? I don't want a recipe with seventeen ingredients. I just want to not be running on fumes by mid-morning. x

Jun 19 · Liked post

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Trying magnesium this month. Just that. Writing down whether my sleep changes. Not buying anything else until I know. x

Jun 19 · Liked post

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41 and genuinely not sure where I fit. The menopause forums feel like they're not for me yet and my period app keeps asking if I'm trying to conceive which, no, I just want to know why my cycle went from 28 days to 34 to 26 to 38 in the space of four months. I've started keeping a rough notes page on my phone. Not organised, just dates and whatever I noticed. Woke at 3am, felt like I was vibrating with anxiety. Really tired by 2pm. Skipped breakfast, felt awful by 11. That kind of thing. It's already shown me that the days I actually eat something proper in the morning are noticeably less awful by lunchtime, which sounds obvious but I genuinely hadn't connected it before. I want to see my GP but I keep talking myself out of it because I don't want to sit there and say "I'm a bit tired and my periods have gone weird" and have her look at me like I've wasted an appointment. Has anyone actually managed to ask about this without feeling like they're being dramatic? What did you say? x

Jun 18 · Liked post

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Wore the red dress on Saturday. Felt like myself for the first time in ages. Tiny thing but I'm writing it down. x

Jun 18 · Liked post

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Tracked one thing for a whole week without adding anything else. That's it. That's the win. Felt surprisingly hard to do. x

Jun 18 · Liked post

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41 and feeling like a complete fraud in here tbh. Every menopause space I find seems to be for women in their 50s and the period tracker apps keep asking me if I'm trying to conceive 🙄 like mate that is NOT the vibe right now. My cycles have been doing weird things for about eight months. Sometimes 24 days, sometimes 34. I used to be clockwork. And I'm exhausted in a way that sleep doesn't fix, which is fun. The anxiety has got worse too but I keep telling myself it's just work, just the kids, just life being A Lot. I've started writing things down because I couldn't remember what was happening from one month to the next. Not in any organised way, just notes on my phone. When I woke up at 3am, how much coffee I'd had, whether I'd actually eaten before noon. Turns out I almost never eat before noon which probably isn't helping anything. Going to try and actually have something before I leave the house in the mornings. Genuinely curious if it shifts the 11am crash. Also trying to figure out how to bring the cycle stuff up with my GP without her just nodding and saying stress. Any tips on how to make it sound like data rather than a complaint? x

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ok so I have officially tried everything. not really but it feels like it this week alone I have: eaten porridge with protein powder in it (texture of wallpaper paste, 0/10), done a 10 minute walk after dinner in the rain because apparently that's A Thing now, stared at an instagram reel telling me to "eat like your hormones are watching" which I think means no fun ever, and spent 45 minutes reading about seed cycling which I still don't fully understand the walk was actually fine. I will admit that. I didn't want to go and then I went and I didn't hate it. that's as close to a wellness win as I'm getting this month the porridge though. I persevered for four days. four days of beige sludge before I admitted defeat and went back to toast. except now I feel guilty about the toast because apparently bread is basically poison after 45 and I'm 50 so presumably I should be composting myself the thing that gets me is the sheer volume of conflicting information. one person says eat more protein, another says cut carbs, another says cut carbs but only certain carbs, someone else says fasting, someone else says never fast, it's hormonal chaos. I just want to not crash at 3pm and maybe fit back into my work trousers. that's the whole brief. it's not complicated I'm genuinely trying to find one or two things that are doable for normal life, not a full personality overhaul. if anyone has cracked the afternoon energy thing without spending a fortune or becoming a different person I am all ears. sending solidarity to everyone else drowning in the instagram noise x

Jun 17 · Liked post

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Not strictly on topic but I know you lot will have answers. What are you actually eating on the nights you cannot be bothered. I'm talking five ingredients max, teenagers will tolerate it, and ideally something with a bit of protein because I'm trying to be good about that. I've done jacket potatoes to death. My current rotation is embarrassingly short and I am bored of myself. Bonus points if it's cheap. Go.

Jun 17 · Liked post

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Hello everyone. So I've been lurking here for a while and I had to share this because the supplement aisle was genuinely making me anxious. Every week there's a new thing on Instagram, some influencer with glowing skin telling me I need this powder or that capsule. I decided to just pick one thing and track it properly for a few weeks before adding anything else. I've been keeping a little note on my phone, nothing fancy, just how I slept and whether the hot flushes felt different. Early days but honestly just having a method has calmed me down more than anything in the cupboard has so far 😊 x

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41 and genuinely baffled by my own body right now. My periods used to be so predictable I could have set a clock by them. Now I honestly don't know if I'm getting a light one or three days of absolute carnage until it's already happening. Last Tuesday I bled through onto my work chair and I'm 41, not 14, and I could have cried in the toilets. Actually I think I did a bit. I've started keeping a scrappy little diary because I've got a GP appointment in a few weeks and I don't want to just sit there going "it's quite heavy I suppose" and have her nod and send me away with nothing. So I'm writing down when it starts, how heavy (rough scale, nothing fancy), how wiped out I feel the day after, whether I can actually function. The fatigue is the bit I keep underplaying when I talk to anyone. I act like the bleeding is the main event but honestly it's the tiredness that floors me. Two days after a heavy one I feel like I've been run over. Wanted to ask, has anyone gone in specifically asking about iron levels? I keep reading that ferritin can tank and that it explains a lot of the exhaustion but I don't know if I'd be pushing my luck asking for a full blood panel or if that's a totally normal thing to request. I've written it down so I don't chicken out and forget to mention it. Also, total side note, I've been doing really simple dinners on the bad days because cooking anything complicated feels impossible. Lentil soup from a tin, beans on toast, that sort of thing. Not glamorous but it keeps me upright. Anyway. Hi. I've been reading this room for a while and it's the first time I've felt like other people actually get it x

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Hi all. I've been lurking for about three weeks and finally made an account. I'm 44, two kids, working full time, and my periods have gone completely feral in the last year. Heavy, unpredictable, and I'm back to carrying spare clothes in my bag like I'm fifteen. The exhaustion is the part that's really getting to me though. I keep thinking I'm just tired from everything else but I'm starting to wonder. Glad this place exists. Thanks for having me x

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51 and I've started dreading Thursday afternoons more than anything else in my working life, which is saying something because I once had a line manager who ate tuna pasta at his desk every single day. We have a team catch-up at 3pm and I used to be the one who drove those meetings. Came in with ideas, remembered context from weeks back, could hold a whole project in my head. Now I sit there and the words just... go. Not big words, normal ones. Last week I wanted to say "consecutive" and I ended up saying "the ones that come after each other" like I was explaining it to a child. My colleague very kindly filled in the blank. She thought she was being helpful. I wanted to cry in the car park. I don't know if this is peri or just what happens when you've been running on empty for three years. Probably both? My GP has been fine but I've never actually told her how bad it is at work specifically, I've sort of downplayed it because I felt embarrassed. Going to try and write down some actual examples before my next appointment. Not vague "I forget things sometimes" but proper incidents, dates, what I was trying to do. The 3pm crash is its own problem. I've been experimenting with what I eat at lunch because someone in another thread mentioned protein making a difference to the afternoon. Early days but I've switched from whatever sad desk sandwich I was grabbing to something more substantial and I do think the drop isn't quite as brutal? Could be coincidence. Also trying to protect my sleep a bit more rigidly, phone off earlier, no more doom-scrolling at midnight. Whether any of it is actually helping the fog or just making me feel like I'm doing something, I genuinely can't tell yet. Anyone else had to rebuild their confidence at work because of this? I keep second-guessing everything I say in meetings now and that's almost worse than the actual forgetting. x

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39 and I genuinely cannot keep up with what I'm supposed to be taking. Every time I open Instagram I'm apparently deficient in six things and there's a new founder in a white blazer telling me her £65 blend changed her life. I don't doubt she believes it. I just... can't afford to believe everything. What I actually want is someone saying "I tried magnesium glycinate for eight weeks and my sleep went from terrible to slightly less terrible" and that's it. No before and after. No referral code. Just a normal person's normal experience. I've been making a rough list of what I'm already taking (just vitamin D at the moment, from the GP's suggestion) because I want to be honest with my GP next appointment about what's in my system. She's not dismissive but I don't think she knows what I'm seeing online either. Feels important to just... have it written down. The protein thing I've actually found easier than supplements honestly. Eggs at breakfast, that kind of thing. Cheaper. Less confusing. Maybe that's where I'll stay for a while before I add anything else. x

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Hi all. 53, been lurking. Brain fog at work is getting embarrassing. Is this peri or am I just burnt out? x

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Is it just me or does Sunday feel like the day everything catches up with you. I did a big cook today, chicken thighs, roasted veg, the whole thing, and by the time I'd plated it up for everyone I just stood in the kitchen eating mine over the sink like some kind of feral mum. I keep trying to make dinners that feel normal for the family but also have enough protein in them that I don't crash at 9pm. It's a weird thing to be thinking about. Nobody warned me I'd be standing in a supermarket aisle at 49 quietly calculating grams of protein per portion. The change is glamorous, truly x

Jun 21 · Replied to Community post

Okay so I'm US and postmeno so slightly different path, but this hit me. The "I sound vague even to myself" thing is SO real. Writing it down before appointments was the only reason I actually got anywhere with my OBGYN. You're not dramatic. You're 40 and your body is doing something. That's worth taking seriously.

Jun 21 · Replied to Community post

The mood thing from walks is real. I kept dismissing it because it felt too small to count. It counts. My OBGYN was actually decent about the joint stuff, asked me to describe when it hurt and what made it worse. Going in with specifics seemed to help. Fingers crossed yours listens.

Jun 21 · Replied to Community post

Just popping back to say thank you, especially Orla. I read all of these with a cup of tea and had a little cry, in a good way. This community is such a relief sometimes.

Jun 20 · Replied to Community post

THIS. The tick and the knee note is genuinely smart, not small. I spent months thinking I had to do a whole program before I could start anything. Turns out ten minutes outside actually shifted my mood on the worst days. Gym can wait. Walks first.

Jun 20 · Replied to Community post

Okay so the tab thing is SO real. I had a beginner strength video bookmarked for literally two months. What finally got me moving was just walking first, like even ten minutes, no pressure. The fatigue question is worth bringing to your doctor though, I asked mine about limits before pushing harder and it genuinely helped me not spiral when I had a bad week.

Jun 20 · Replied to Community post

THIS. I do the same thing, walk in totally prepared and then just go blank the second she looks at me. Writing it down is smart.

Jun 19 · Replied to Community post

Okay the period app thing made me laugh out loud. No, Clue, I am not trying to conceive, I am trying to survive. Solidarity from across the pond. The data framing for doctors is real, numbers help. You've got this.

Jun 18 · Replied to Community post

THIS. I didn't have surgery but my OBGYN basically handed me the same pamphlet as everyone else and I was like... none of this maps to what's happening. I can only imagine how disorienting it must be when it hits you in a week. Bring that question about the research to your appointment, write it exactly like you wrote it here. Solidarity.

Jun 18 · Replied to Community post

Okay so this is exactly where I was a few months ago. Three short walks IS something. The mood thing is real, I noticed it too before I noticed anything else. On the GP question, yes I had that conversation and my OBGYN actually took the joint stuff seriously, asked me to describe which joints and when. Worth writing it down before you go so you don't get flustered and forget half of it.

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Girl, the tab-closing is SO real. I spent three weeks watching the same beginner video and never once pressed play. What finally got me moving was just... not calling it exercise. Ten minutes around the block. That's it. No workout clothes, no plan. The fatigue wall you're describing is exactly what I want to talk to my OBGYN about too. You're not imagining it and "just go for walks" is not an answer.

Jun 18 · Replied to Community post

THIS. A 4 moving to a 6 is not nothing. That's the whole thing actually. I kept waiting to feel "fixed" before I counted it as working. Nope. Less awful counts.

Jun 17 · Replied to Community post

The mood shift from just being outside is real. Not fixed, just... less terrible. I noticed the same thing with 10 min walks and couldn't explain it either. On the joint question, I asked my OBGYN straight up: "is this estrogen or is this just age and a desk job" and she said honestly it's probably both and that was actually useful because it meant I stopped waiting for one answer before doing anything.

Jun 17 · Replied to Community post

Different system here but same experience of leaving the hard question to the end. I finally just led with it. Changed everything. Good luck.

Jun 16 · Replied to Community post

Okay so the rusted gate image is extremely accurate and I am stealing it. I started with ten minute walks around the block, nothing more, and honestly the mood shift surprised me more than anything physical. Not fixed, not transformed, just... slightly less grim. Bare minimum absolutely counts.

Jun 16 · Replied to Community post

The notes idea is solid. My OBGYN said the same thing, patterns on paper land differently than "I've been feeling off." Hope you get somewhere with it.

Jun 16 · Replied to Community post

Thank you Orla, and everyone who replied. This is exactly why I posted. Reading these has made me feel much less ridiculous, and I am adding a few notes before my next appointment.

Jun 16 · Replied to Community post

Slow and uncertain absolutely counts. I started with 10 min walks and felt ridiculous after being someone who used to do actual workouts. But it added up. The protein thing you noticed, same here, not nothing. ETA: the fatigue vs push through question is real, worth bringing to your doctor for sure.

Jun 16 · Replied to Community post

Yes! I have a BedJet and honestly it changed my life. Not cheap but I was so desperate I didn't care anymore. The cool air setting is the thing for me, not the pad itself. Also looked at the Chilipad/Dock Pro but the BedJet won on noise level for me. ETA: my husband barely notices it which was a whole separate negotiation.

Jun 16 · Replied to Community post

THIS. I do the same thing, catalog every bad moment and then act like that's the whole story. The walks helping mood thing is real too. Solidarity.

Jun 16 · Replied to Community post

THIS. My car is literally my office, my therapy room, and my lunch spot. Four minutes of not answering anyone is a win. Take it.

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Okay so I'm US and postmeno so slightly different path, but this hit me. The "I sound vague even to myself" thing is SO real. Writing it down before appointments was the only reason I actually got anywhere with my OBGYN. You're not dramatic. You're 40 and your body is doing something. That's worth taking seriously.

The mood thing from walks is real. I kept dismissing it because it felt too small to count. It counts. My OBGYN was actually decent about the joint stuff, asked me to describe when it hurt and what made it worse. Going in with specifics seemed to help. Fingers crossed yours listens.

Just popping back to say thank you, especially Orla. I read all of these with a cup of tea and had a little cry, in a good way. This community is such a relief sometimes.

THIS. The tick and the knee note is genuinely smart, not small. I spent months thinking I had to do a whole program before I could start anything. Turns out ten minutes outside actually shifted my mood on the worst days. Gym can wait. Walks first.

Okay so the tab thing is SO real. I had a beginner strength video bookmarked for literally two months. What finally got me moving was just walking first, like even ten minutes, no pressure. The fatigue question is worth bringing to your doctor though, I asked mine about limits before pushing harder and it genuinely helped me not spiral when I had a bad week.

THIS. I do the same thing, walk in totally prepared and then just go blank the second she looks at me. Writing it down is smart.

Okay the period app thing made me laugh out loud. No, Clue, I am not trying to conceive, I am trying to survive. Solidarity from across the pond. The data framing for doctors is real, numbers help. You've got this.

THIS. I didn't have surgery but my OBGYN basically handed me the same pamphlet as everyone else and I was like... none of this maps to what's happening. I can only imagine how disorienting it must be when it hits you in a week. Bring that question about the research to your appointment, write it exactly like you wrote it here. Solidarity.

Okay so this is exactly where I was a few months ago. Three short walks IS something. The mood thing is real, I noticed it too before I noticed anything else. On the GP question, yes I had that conversation and my OBGYN actually took the joint stuff seriously, asked me to describe which joints and when. Worth writing it down before you go so you don't get flustered and forget half of it.

Girl, the tab-closing is SO real. I spent three weeks watching the same beginner video and never once pressed play. What finally got me moving was just... not calling it exercise. Ten minutes around the block. That's it. No workout clothes, no plan. The fatigue wall you're describing is exactly what I want to talk to my OBGYN about too. You're not imagining it and "just go for walks" is not an answer.

THIS. A 4 moving to a 6 is not nothing. That's the whole thing actually. I kept waiting to feel "fixed" before I counted it as working. Nope. Less awful counts.

The mood shift from just being outside is real. Not fixed, just... less terrible. I noticed the same thing with 10 min walks and couldn't explain it either. On the joint question, I asked my OBGYN straight up: "is this estrogen or is this just age and a desk job" and she said honestly it's probably both and that was actually useful because it meant I stopped waiting for one answer before doing anything.

Different system here but same experience of leaving the hard question to the end. I finally just led with it. Changed everything. Good luck.

Okay so the rusted gate image is extremely accurate and I am stealing it. I started with ten minute walks around the block, nothing more, and honestly the mood shift surprised me more than anything physical. Not fixed, not transformed, just... slightly less grim. Bare minimum absolutely counts.

The notes idea is solid. My OBGYN said the same thing, patterns on paper land differently than "I've been feeling off." Hope you get somewhere with it.

Thank you Orla, and everyone who replied. This is exactly why I posted. Reading these has made me feel much less ridiculous, and I am adding a few notes before my next appointment.

Slow and uncertain absolutely counts. I started with 10 min walks and felt ridiculous after being someone who used to do actual workouts. But it added up. The protein thing you noticed, same here, not nothing. ETA: the fatigue vs push through question is real, worth bringing to your doctor for sure.

Yes! I have a BedJet and honestly it changed my life. Not cheap but I was so desperate I didn't care anymore. The cool air setting is the thing for me, not the pad itself. Also looked at the Chilipad/Dock Pro but the BedJet won on noise level for me. ETA: my husband barely notices it which was a whole separate negotiation.

THIS. I do the same thing, catalog every bad moment and then act like that's the whole story. The walks helping mood thing is real too. Solidarity.

THIS. My car is literally my office, my therapy room, and my lunch spot. Four minutes of not answering anyone is a win. Take it.

Okay so I was the exact person who bought them and ignored them for six months. Then I actually used them and was annoyed at myself for waiting. The flat loop ones are honestly the easiest to just grab and go. I do maybe 10-12 minutes a few times a week, nothing fancy. Knees have been happier than I expected. Start light, like embarrassingly light, that part matters.

"The volume got turned down a notch" is exactly it. Not fixed, just quieter. I've been saying this to people and they look at me like I'm speaking another language. The walks aren't magic but they do something to the noise in my head that nothing else quite does. And yes, bring the fatigue question to your appointment, I had the same one and it was worth asking out loud.

THIS. The 3pm crash is so real and honestly a short walk is the only thing that actually touches it for me. Not fixed, just... less bad. Which is enough. Keep logging it.

The tracking idea is smart. Concrete data beats vague feelings in a doctor's office every time. Different experience here on the wine thing, cutting it out didn't move the needle much for me personally, but the sleep disruption pattern was real regardless. Hope the appointment goes better this time.

THIS. The not calling it a protocol thing is everything. The second I make something official I sabotage it immediately. The protein breakfast actually helped me too, not a cure but the 3pm crash got less brutal. Solidarity. Can't wait to hear the complaints and the useful stuff both.

Okay so the sofa grunt thing. YES. I noticed the same thing a few weeks into walking regularly and honestly it hit me harder than I expected. Like, oh, my body is actually responding. You're not "someone who exercises", you're someone who showed up twice in pajamas and finished the second one. That counts. That counts a lot.

Bring the list. 100%. My OBGYN said the same thing, she'd rather know. Different experience on the GP engagement though, first one I saw just kind of moved on quickly. Second one was much better. Worth pushing if the first appointment feels like a shrug.

THIS. The mood thing with walking is so real and I also cannot fully explain it. I'm in the same middle zone. Not fixed, still tired, but something is different on walk days. The protein after thing too, I started doing that almost by accident and now I notice when I skip it. Not a prescription, just same pattern here.

THIS. I felt like a complete imposter the first few times back. Still kind of do tbh. But twice in a week? That's not ridiculous, that's actually a win. Solidarity.

THIS. The mood thing is the first thing that shifted for me too, way before anything else changed. Nothing fixed, just less underwater is exactly how I'd describe it. Bring that fatigue question to your doctor, be specific, don't let them brush past it. You're doing more than you think.

Girl, the thumbnail problem is so real. Every beginner video looks like it was made for a 28-year-old who just wants abs. I started ignoring thumbnails entirely and just reading the comments to see if anyone over 45 said it was actually doable. The fatigue loop you described, tired so not moving, not moving so tired, that was me for months. Walks helped me break it a little. Not fixed, just... a crack in the door.

THIS. The mood difference is so real and I could never explain it either. On the fatigue question, what worked for me was being really specific with my OBGYN, like 'I feel exhausted after 6 hours of sleep and also after 9 hours, it doesn't seem to be about the amount.' That got a different response than just saying I was tired.

Okay the photo thing is genuinely smart. I always go to my OBGYN and completely blank on timelines. Writing down what else was happening at the same time is a great idea, I'm stealing that. Solidarity on the "both useful and deeply unpleasant" front, that's exactly it.

That catch-22 is so real. I was stuck in the same loop. What helped me was just starting with 10 min walks, no agenda, no pace goal. Mood lifted a little even when nothing else changed. For the GP thing, I found saying "fatigue and joint pain are limiting me, I want a plan not a pamphlet" got a more useful response than asking generally about exercise. Good luck with the appointment.

Girl, the hot flash on the bus after a good date is peak cruel timing. The walks helping mood even when they don't fix everything, yes, that's exactly it. And telling your doctor the actual thing, not just the physical list, that's the move. Rooting for you.

Girl, I stood outside the weight room for way longer than three weeks. What finally helped me was going at an off-peak time and just picking up the lightest thing there. That's it. No program, no plan. Just showed up. The intimidation does ease. Solidarity.

Okay the 11pm YouTube spiral is SO real. I've been there. Three walks in four days is genuinely something, not nothing. The egg and cheese thing sounds smart, I started doing something similar and I think it does help with not feeling wrecked after. And yes, ask your doctor the specific questions. Write them down. You deserve actual answers, not just 'great, keep it up.'

The mood thing is real. Not fixed, just turned down a notch, exactly like you said. I noticed it before anything else changed. Keep going.

Girl, yes. I brought this exact thing up with my OBGYN and honestly the key was saying "I crash after ten minutes and then I'm out for two days" rather than just "I get tired." Specifics helped. She actually listened once I framed it as a pattern, not a complaint. The joint stuff too, I mentioned which joints and when. Solidarity on all of this.

Okay so. Rotisserie chicken from the grocery store. That's it. That's my answer. Grab it on the way home, pull it apart over whatever veg you have, done. I keep a bag of frozen edamame for exactly this situation. No cooking, actual protein, feels like a real meal. You did a 20 min walk, you deserve more than crackers.

THIS. The ten minute walk thing is so real. I started the same way and felt ridiculous about it for about a week and then I stopped caring because it was actually working. Mood was noticeably better on walk days even when nothing else changed. The embarrassingly small start is the only start I've ever been able to stick with honestly.

THIS. I only ever write down the bad nights too and my therapist said basically the same thing. One walk around the block before dinner has genuinely changed the vibe at my house more than once. Not every time. But enough that I keep doing it. Glad you wrote this one down.

THIS. My OBGYN never brought it up, I had to ask. Wish someone had told me sooner too. Solidarity.

Okay so my go-to is a can of white beans, olive oil, lemon, whatever herbs are in the fridge. Takes about four minutes. Not glamorous but it keeps me going without a crash. Also rotisserie chicken on literally anything counts as a meal in my house.

The forgetting thing is real. I started keeping a running note in my phone so I could just read it out loud if I had to. Joint pain and fatigue limits were the two things I always blanked on. Writing it down beforehand helped me actually get somewhere with my OBGYN.

The notebook idea is solid. I brought a literal printed list to my OBGYN and it saved me. On the insurance thing, I just paid out of pocket for Midi at first and submitted for reimbursement after. It was a fight but I got some of it back. Definitely call the number on the back of your insurance card before the appointment and ask specifically about telehealth menopause care. Worth 20 minutes.

THIS. I also rolled my eyes at "just walk" and then quietly had to admit it does something to my mood that I can't fully explain. Not a fix. Just... a shift. Bring the joint stuff to your appointment for sure, I had to ask mine twice before it got taken seriously.

THIS. I did the exact same thing a few months ago. No goals, just walking and writing down how I felt after. Turns out I had way more data than I expected by week two. The joint thing is real for me too. Rest days feel worse, not better.

Yes to all of this. I asked my OBGYN the same thing and honestly got the generic response you're dreading. What helped was being really specific, like "my hips are stiff for the first hour every morning, is that hormonal or mechanical" rather than just "I have joint pain". She actually engaged with that. Also worth asking if a referral to PT makes sense before you start lifting. That changed things for me.

Yes. Kept one in my bag for months. Helped more than I expected. Go get it.